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 It was during the very first nasal whinings of the ‘Beatles’ “Love Me Do” that were wafting over the air waves that a group calling themselves The Jaybirds were having their first experience of flower power, in the form of a Chrysanthemum Society. The focal point of this three man outfit was Alvin Lee, who was a short, and fair youth, who sported skin tight cavalry twill trousers, with loose fitting waistcoats, with his hair slicked back in the true Elvis Presley style.
Alvin and his band performed on Friday evenings, and sometimes on Mondays as well, at the St. Michael’s Church Hall, Sutton in Ashfield, at an event known to the locals as the Sutton ‘op or pronounced as Sut’nop. The entrance fee was just two bob, and if Alvin and the band made a fiver on the night they were more than satisfied. That explains why the Sutton in Ashfield, and the District Chrysanthemum and Dahlia Society in general were regarded as something of a fly in the group’s ointment, so to speak. As this small Society used the very same hall favoured by the huge, and frequently war like patrons of the Sut’nop and on two weekends a year they saw the need to hold their early / late flower shows there. When this happened, it meant there were to be no Friday night ‘hop’ for the Jaybirds, and the need to find a new and quite possibly, a much less appreciative audience to win over, was the case. To be sure, the patrons of the Sut’nop were not renowned for their delicacy or restraint by any means, but it was during this time that the last desperate remains of the “Teddy Boy” phase were struggling unsuccessfully for their drape jacketed survival. 

These groups of youths, and many of them scuffing their large pit boots menacingly along the entrance, and on into the hall, would arrive promptly at seven p.m. with their best ladies at their side for the start of the evenings entertainment. It wasn’t until about seven thirty that the pit boots along with drainies had left their girlfriends and lovers behind to listen to the power chords and fast riffs of Alvin’s already blistering lead guitar solos, and proceeded to walk across the road to the popular Dew Drop Inn. Now what was the reason for them leaving the concert you’re wondering? It had nothing what’s so ever to do with The Jaybirds, but the story is double sided. In the first place, the good folks at St. Michael’s Church run an alcohol free establishment, the only refreshments served there are coke-a-cola and orange juice, with or without ice! Secondly, the fine ale across the street was only 1s 5d for a pint, at the Dew Drop or at the New Cross Hotel, as the fine folks new to Sutton referred to it. So at about nine forty five in the evening, the Smokey thick atmosphere filled the whole tap room, and was now working its magic, along with all the muted oaths, and the extravagant claims of large amounts of ale supped, as the pit boots trooped back into the church hall once again.
They would have remained back at the pub, and fastened to their pints long after the final request for their departure coming from the land-lord, except for one important factor, they didn’t want to miss all the action and frenzy that was going on towards the end of the concert. Everyone knew, that the show finished at ten p.m. and it was quarter to the hour now. Alvin and the band could be heard at their loudest and best. The reason for this was due to the fact that the last part of the hour of their performance consisted invariably of misguided attempts to make themselves heard above the frenzy caused by the two hundred people who were very intent on fulfilling the mass ritual of fisticuffs.
It seems that the trouble always started with the return of the pit boot brigade from the pub. While they were away the younger crowd had remained at the hall and proceeded to take liberties with the pit boots lady friends, with a little dancing on the floor. A very unwise decision to be sure, as these youngsters found themselves confronted with very large, very drunken, and very aggressive pairs of pit boots coming directly at them.
Leave it to the Jaybirds at this point, to go into songs like “Carol” and Johnny B. Goode.” As Alvin’s fingers would be working overtime while he was sweating furiously in order to drown out the boot crunch against the bone sound! It should be noted, that during one of these particularly prolonged and spectacular melee, that the first long introduction to a song was born. As back in those days bands playing in front of a live audience, rarely if ever moved outside of the tight and very limited confines of the conventional three minute format of their numbers. It was in this area that Alvin Lee was one of the first to break into new territory when he was forced to play a lashing, stinging five minute guitar solo at the beginning of the song “Money” while chairs and fists were flying dangerously close to the stage area. Back in those days Alvin had quite a growing reputation for being an innovator, some people have never recovered from the traumatic effects of the time he walked into the hall wearing the very first pair of Cuban heel boots ever to be seen in Sutton. This event alone, in the face of all those pit boots, was to say the least a brave gesture at that. Although Alvin had a certain polish even back then.
The group’s version of “Poison Ivy” was thought by many to be even better than The Rolling Stones Version which was released on EP. No one but Alvin could change from rhythm guitar to lead guitar with quite the same panache. As all good things come to an end, The Jaybirds were lost forever to make way for the “Bee-Hive Hairdoes and the Pit Boots of St. Michael’s. Moving forward, the gigs at nearby Mansfield Palais were to be the next step up the ladder of success, and before very long even little Nottingham had fallen at the feet of the blonde, speed, freak and his band. But The Jaybirds have certainly come a long way since those meagre days so long ago.
They’ve managed to sell a lot of records, and made a great deal of money while touring America. Although they’re no longer called The Jaybirds, because somewhere along the line bass player Leo Lyons came up with the name that would make the world stand up and take notice of “TEN YEARS AFTER”.  

 

 

 

1.

Melody Maker 10/23/71

Ten Years After - “A Space In Time” (Chrysalis)

Yes folks, Mr Alvin Lee and his rock and roll band pushing out the most relevant thing they’ve done to date.  This album’s got the guitar and vocals of a bitchy old lady: out for trouble, and finding it. Lee is at his meanest, with guitar and vocals that don’t rely on frills nor finery, just quick fingers and a poisonous, Venemous tongue. It opens with “One Of These Days,” a rising, cosmic noise that lashes into a furious half-bop, half-boogie, taking in about every facet of Lee’s hard shifting guitar. That all melts down into “Here They Come” soft and acoustic, but with an underlying riff of menace. “I’d Love To Change The World,” is another in the more complex TYA book, with Lee adopting an almost angelic look on life, but a quick “oh yeh!” rattles it onwards.

Then there’s  “Over The Hill” the most beautiful track on the album, tumbling with melody and TYA is the Last band you’d expect that from. Yeh, strings, lots of them, and it’s as commercial as you’d ever get. With the effect of somebody finding the rock and roll channel on the radio, we get the real 50’s influenced Band, “Baby Let Me Rock and Roll You,” barrel–rolling piano and Alvin on long metallic runs with echoed, gutsy vocals. Short, sweet, and just dandy. Down home blues, is here too with things like “Once There Was A Time,” which progresses from a plonking jog to another high-flying racer. This track is Alvin’s “Johnny B. Goode,” and it’s a glad one. “Let the Sky Falls,” brings an up-tempo “Love Like a Man” to mind,   and like every track the presence of Lyons, Churchill and Ric Lee is more prominent, and commendable than ever before. Yeh, they can certainly play.

There’s a few things here going to surprise a lot of TYA freaks, but they’re going to like it, as are a lot of the bands critics. This is TYA experimenting, progressing, and succeeding. Our meanest rock and rollers with a good, proud album.

By R.H.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

German Article

Ten Years After

“A Space In Time” 1971  - (Chrysalis 6307 500)

Facts: Neue Ten Years After –LP mit zehn Titeln, wovon neun Alvin Lee und einer Lee zusammen mit Leo Lyons, Ric Lee, und Chick Churchill geschrieben hat.

 Review: Wer stampfenden Rhythmus, lichtschnelle Gitarrensolos und kernige Bassstrukturen erwartet-also Rock ‚n’ Roll in wohlbekannter Ten Years After- Machart-wird vielleicht etwas enttäuscht sein. Natürlich sind das immer noch die alten Ten Years After: das dichte Schlagzeugspiel, Leos eigenwilliger Bass, Alvin’s unverkennbarer Gesang und seine einmaligen Kurz-Solis.

Aber, A Space In Time, ist dynamischer und differenzierter geraten. Streicher, akustische Gitarren, ungewohnt leichte, ruhigere Parts zeigen Ten Years After sehr verspielt. Das ist für Alvin, Leo, Ric und Chick eine wertvolle musikalische Weiterentwicklung. Ten Years After klingt so nicht weniger gut. 

 

A Space In Time-was recorded at Olympic Studios, London England and released in 1971

The Rolling Stone Magazine Review, from October 14, 1971

 “The original material and arrangements are terribly lame…As the Romans used to say…let the buyer beware…” 

 

In another article a little more positive review:

A Space In Time was Ten Years After’s biggest commercial success. The reasons are pretty obvious; Alvin Lee’s song writing had improved markedly and there was far more stylistic variety than on their previous albums. The big hit here was “I’d Love To Change The World,” with its catchy acoustic guitar hook and immortal opening line, “Everywhere is Freaks and Harries.” Other high points include:

“Baby Won’t You Let Me Rock ‘n’ Roll You,” the bands first stab at a Stones-style raunch (complete with a riff from Led Zeppelin); the country-ish romp “Once There Was A Time”; and the gently folky and surprisingly self-deprecating “Over The Hill,” which features strings, a move that would have been unthinkable for this band a year or two earlier.  

 

 

TEN YEARS AFTER TOUR ALTERATION 1971

Ten Years After have added a further date to their British concert tour which opens at          Bristol Colston Hall on September 14—it is at Bradford St. George’s Hall on September 27. But the group’s visit to Scotland—Edinburgh Empire had previously been announced for September 25—has been put back to October, and revised dates are now being set for Edinburgh, and Glasgow.

The new Ten Years After album “A Space In Time” is currently climbing the American LP charts.

 Other dates on the tour—which also features Supertramp and Keith Christmas—are at Liverpool Philharmonic Hall (September 15), Newcastle City Hall (16), London Coliseum (18), Southampton Guildhall (20), Leicester De Montfort Hall (22), Manchester Free Trade Hall (26), Sheffield City Hall (28), and Birmingham Town Hall (October 4).

 

 


2.

The Private Life of Alvin Lee  -  by Simon Stable

New Musical Express  5/6/72

 Alvin Lee of Ten Years After seems to spend more time on tour than on holiday, but recently before yet another American tour, I managed to get to see him at his country home. After a pleasant and enjoyable chat he played me a track he’d written and recorded the night before, a number  he’s thinking of putting on the next album. It was another of his fast foot-tapers with plenty of harmonica and guitar panning from side to side. He told me he was planning to call the song “Holy Shit”, though he did say he might be forced to change the title and some of the words. I’ve known Lee for about three years and, despite his success, I’ve always found him to be an easy-to-get-on-with guy. He is, as the following interview may show, an interesting and intelligent person.  

After your third album “Stonedhenge”, why did you change producers? Why produce yourself?

Good question. Well, when we did our first album we were very new to the whole recording situation, and our producer was provided with the studio and we were told to appear at ten o’clock in the morning and make an album. And it was out in four days. We were very green. We just recorded all the numbers we did on tape in the studio. I don’t think at the time we even heard it until it came out. When it finally did go out, we were quite disappointed, really, as the result didn’t seem to have the dynamics of the record we had played within the studio. And we realised this was down to the recording techniques. The second album was live, so there was nothing to do about that. Then we decided to produce ourselves. Still, being rather green we used the same studios that we’d been given. It’s a Decca album, so we used a Decca studio. It only had a four-track machine. There were no facilities for panning stereo, and what little bit of that we did we had to have equipment specially made.  We had this little box made to pan across an instrument, from one side to another. That’s the reason for all the corny panning,  just one box with one knob on. It was just a matter of getting into the format. Getting to know what it was all about. We realised that rather than doing what somebody else suggested, who wasn’t really interpreting our music the way we wanted it interpreted, anyway, it would be best doing it ourselves. Even if you make a mistake, I believe that your own mistakes are better recorded than someone else’s.  Ten Years After music is quite personal to us as musicians, and I think it should be recorded our way than the way a third party sees it. I believe of all musicians , I find it hard to respect a musician who uses a producer, because I think that if a musician knows what he wants to put down, he should do it himself.  That’s where the art of recording comes in, to know how to apply your music to the tape, to get the results in. We haven’t, to my own personal satisfaction, done anything at all incredible, but every album has had good bits, and we’ve learned from them. So, hopefully, we are in control and will make them better and better as we go along, which is the logical progression anyway. I must be putting producers out of business!  

   

Do you feel your part in “Woodstock” helped your career as a musician or not? I mean, it put you in the public eye, but did you not find you were playing more and more request, and less and less of the things you actually wanted to do? 

Well, we never play request. We never play anything other than what we want to do. However “Woodstock” did have considerable effect. When we did “Woodstock” we didn’t realise it was going to be such a big thing, just a festival which we had to arrive at on time. It wasn’t until we got into a helicopter, and flew in, that we realised what a big thing it was. Even then, we weren’t to realise how much world attention it would get, which it did. It was on national news in America and everything, and that’s more than I expected, so the kind of publicity we got from being in the “Woodstock” film initially, like gave us a boost in popularity.   A lot more people had heard us, where as before “Woodstock” we were still playing the concert halls and we were still selling enough albums, we were doing really well. After “Woodstock”, well we found that more people were coming to the concert halls, more people were buying the album, but it was on the strength of “Going Home”, which is a nasty situation. You can’t take control of it. First, like, a lot of young kids were coming to the concerts who weren’t particularly into what we were trying to do, merely into us having been at “Woodstock”, and it was more or less a kind a rock ‘n’ roll circus, which is what we’d been trying to avoid up to then. And it got a bit out of hand, and I did in fact regret having been in “Woodstock”…fearing it was going too far out of hand, but we used the opportunity of the press and that, doing Press articles to say that we wanted people to get into the structures of the music, and listen to what we were trying to do as well as rock ‘n’ roll.   

EXHILARATED: I explained, that we rock ‘n’ roll at the end, just to have a good time. Roland Kirk does the same thing—plays all his serious structures for two hours, then ends up laying on the piano playing a twelve-bar. It’s a good way to finish off a gig:  gets everything out of your system, and everyone can have a good rave-up and go home feeling exhilarated, which is a good thing. But I feel that if “Woodstock” had used “I Can’t Keep From Crying”, it might have been a bit more helpful to us, ‘cos it would have spotlighted the more constructive stuff we’re doing. But all in all, now that “Woodstock” has died down, I don’t think it has made much difference. It might have turned-on a younger audience, maybe they’re now into something else. I find the straight pop, the entertainment side of music, has a very select audience. It’s not something we get involved in. Like singles, we don’t get involved in them, because you have a hit single, then “Top Of The Pops”, it doesn’t bring anything that progresses the band. Like a band that’s nowhere can have a hit single, and suddenly start getting a reasonable turn out for their concerts and probably better contracts for their next single. But they’ve got to keep on recording hit singles, and to do that there are people that specialise in aiming hit singles at the mass market. It’s a disgusting , soul-destroying kind of business to get into. I believe the musician should record the sounds he likes and wants to express, and a lot of it as far as we’re concerned is left to chance.

When TYA took off it wasn’t because we aimed to write music at the audience, it was just that people had picked up on what we were doing, and the more we did it, the more people got into it. That’s all it’s ever been really.  When thinking of Ten Years After, one usually thinks of Alvin Lee rather than the rest of the band. Do you ever feel any resentment from the others? TYA is a co-op, we all get paid the same; we all attempt to do the same amount of work; we all tour the same, because I’m the singer and the lead guitarist, it was quite on the cards I should be singled out as the front man, because I stand in the spotlight. It was intended originally, when we started out, we hoped to make it four people on an equal level. It was through nothing to do with ourselves that this Alvin Lee business got picked out, we didn’t encourage it. 

We had to disown this new Decca album they’re bringing out of old tracks, because it’s got Alvin Lee and Co., and that’s the very thing we’ve been trying to avoid. We talked about it when it happened and said, “look, this looks like it’s going to happen, and there’s nothing much we can do about it.” When people say Alvin Lee this and that at concerts, I usually personify what they either like or don’t like  about the band. It’s just how they refer to the band. You yourself say that when one thinks of TYA, some people do think of an Alvin Lee back-up band. To our minds it isn’t. It’s not a thing to really get concerned about ourselves, it’s irrelevant to what we’re trying to do. It’s a kind a super-star role, which we’ve never encouraged, it’s just a kind of misunderstanding. I mean, I can explain myself completely to anyone who calls me a super-star, but I know very well they don’t know me, they’re just saying that without enough knowledge, so there’s no answer to it. It’s a shame that everybody can’t understand every musician that exists for the true fact of what he’s trying to do. Eric Clapton is your number one guitarist, and so many people adore Eric Clapton and hate everyone else for no logical reason, it’s just the way things go. You can’t control it, it’s just the way people think.    

Your last album “A Space In Time” didn’t do incredibly well in England. Do you feel this had anything to do with the fact that American copies were imported and on sale long before its British release? Or was it that the album wasn’t up to standard?  

Well, I wouldn’t say up to standard, I think the standard as far as we are concerned was better in some ways. The major reason it didn’t do as well in your album charts was due to us not releasing it at the right time in England. We were pressured to get a release date with the new Columbia label in the States, so we released it there first. It was three months before it was released in Europe, and a lot of European sales were lost because of the import shops buying it from the States.   

NO IMPORTS: That helped the sales in the USA, it was a gold album in the States, the first one, so obviously it was received there better than anything else we’d done. That’s the reason I was given when I said “what’s happened to the last album?” I think it’s true. Our next album is going to be released on the same day world-wide, so every market that sells it will be selling their own copies, not importing it in.  

What did you feel about your concert at the Colosseum. Was the Sunday night better than the midnight, Saturday?   

Oh yeah, The midnight show was a bit slow, the audience seemed tired. Those things like having to wait an hour from the time you got in, to when the first band played, always affect a concert. That can be the difference between going down well and having chairs thrown at you, whether the road managers and equipment function well, and it all comes together in time or not. If it doesn’t go well there’s nothing you can do except get it together as quickly as possible. I wasn’t disappointed with any of the concerts.To my mind there’s no good concert hall in London. We didn’t play the Rainbow unfortunately, that might have changed my mind.   You see, we were playing to four balconies at the Colosseum, an eighth of the audience. With our spherical array of speakers and horns we can hope to cover about a hundred degrees of sound, which is about forty percent getting good sound. It’s just acoustic problems and technical difficulties in projecting the sound into the audience, which is always a problem where ever you go.  

UNFORTUNATE:  There will always be people getting bass boom, always be people hearing too much guitar, too much vocal. I think people who sit in the middle, about ten or fifteen rows back, get a good sound and know what’s going on. It’s unfortunate that someone standing at the back gets the sound blocked off by people standing up in the front.  

It’s Better At Festivals, in Fact?  

Right, you’ve got no acoustic problems, and you’re in the open air, which is always nice. There is a problem being in the open air that is easy to overcome, you just have to use a lot of power and a lot of speakers. It’s when you get sound bouncing around halls, hitting the ceiling and bouncing back. When you play loud, it’s a different case. You get good sound drifting across an auditorium, reaching a listener up on an acoustic level, but when you’ve got a lot of sound coming out of the speakers, then suddenly the corners of the room, and what the ceilings are made of, start affecting the sound. These are the problems, more or less.   

You’ve just been on an extensive European tour and you frequently tour America and Japan. Which countries do you prefer to play most and why?  

Well, it changes, at the moment I really enjoy playing in England. The last concert we did, you could hear a pin drop all night long, and people really sat listening, getting into what we were doing. When it came to like rock ‘n’ roll at the end, they got into that and had a jive around, which is—as far as the format of our concerts go—perfect . More recently than that we did the colleges, which was like getting back to the roots-razzle-bit after playing Madison Square Gardens and the Philadelphia Spectrum. Twenty thousand people. Really it was almost a shock. The first college we did was at Reading University: it’s just a little wooden hall with about 1,300 people in it.   You go on stage and there’s none of this Ten Years After bit, awoah! You just walked out and said hullo, and people were sitting there and it was like getting back to the old club bit, I really enjoyed it. I felt you had to really kind’ve work; get things to work on stage. At a really big concert it becomes a bit like a circus, often comparable to feeding lions to the Christians at the Colosseum in Rome. You stir up so much excitement: by the time the band goes on you sometimes feel that what you play isn’t that important. That’s a wrong feeling to take, but sometimes it occurs to you when you do a lot of concerts. When you walk on stage and people cheer for two minutes you feel flattered but are they going to listen to what we are going to do? And half the while, they’re cheering through the first three numbers as well. They’re just having a good time, which is great, but I like people to listen to the music. If you go down well I like to feel it’s been earned—rather than just happened.   

Are you going to do any festivals here?  

I hope so. I want to see festivals continue myself, for more reasons than one. I don’t know of any plans to do a festival, but we’ll spend time in England after we’ve recorded the next album. We’ve got possible dates for festivals, but nothing’s been confirmed.  

On your last album you added strings to your last track—are you in fact thinking of adding horns on the next one?  

Yeah, thinking of it. On an album we try and show where our music is at, but for variety, we try and have a couple of tracks to play around with, and we always find it nice to do a track which is out of character so everybody says ‘Why Good Lord This is Nothing Like Ten Years After!!!!  So therefore, if you put a nice soft mellow un-Ten Years After between two Hard TYA tracks, it adds to the overall variety of the album. You don’t get this grind, grind, grind, grind of some rock albums, because they’re all the same tempo throughout. So for that reason alone, we really enjoyed doing the strings on the last album.  It was just an experiment to see what we could do with strings, and I’m really happy with it. It’s one of the best string things there is. It had very little to do with TYA’s music as people would think of it, but there again, music doesn’t really mean that it’s just what people have picked up through things like “Woodstock”, and variety is quite important to us.

We’ve just been recording in the South of France. We hired a big house there and the Rolling Stones’ mobile truck, and whether we were influenced by being in the Rolling Stones’ truck, or whether it’s that the Rolling Stones truck has its own sound, I’m not sure—but a lot of the tracks we did there sounded very similar to the Stones. So rather than just forget them, just for a joke we got a saxophonist from Supertramp to overdub some sax parts on it and beef it up. If you listen to the last Stones album without the overdubs it’s quite surprising, and if you listen to some Beatles tracks without the overdubs there’s nothing there. Some people specialise in overdubs, but we don’t. We specialise in the basic four instruments. But I don’t see any reason why, for one or two tracks, we don’t have a nine-hundred-piece orchestra just for the variety of it all. It’s a groove to do, so we’ll probably get into something like that.   

INFLUENCE: 

Your best album to my mind was “Cricklewood Green”, and the best track on that was “Circles”. I liked it because it was acoustic. Are you planning more things in this vein?  

This was a side trip again. It was a direct influence from “Astral Weeks”  by Van Morrison, 1968
which moved me considerably at the time, and I used that kind of format; the folk acoustic format, to say something I wanted to say. Which was life going round in circles, which is a pretty…..well, it was just a phase I was going through. I mean. I still think that way sometimes. It was more of a folk outlet to me….more like a truthful thought….a thoughtful thought being sung instead  of spoken. I haven’t had any other ideas along the same vein. We could always do something like that. We did acoustic stuff on the first album and third album. It’s not planned. It was where we were at, really. I mean, the last album showed we could play some nice tunes, so I’m happy with that, that’s past. I think we have to show now, more of our expression of our own selves and our instruments.    

 

New Musical Express, May 13, 1972 

This is the concluding interview by Simon Stable with Ten Years After guitarist Alvin Lee. Here Lee talks about his film ambitions, and discusses Ringo Starr’s venture in the same field. 

Simon: Alvin, I know you’ve been into photography and making your own private films for some time. Are you planning in the future to make a full length feature film. With perhaps your own electronic sound track? 

Alvin: I’d very much like to. At the moment I’m finding out how much practical experience I lack to do that. However perseverance could bring something out like that along those lines.

Looking at the world of commercial films, it’s rather disenchanting ---a bit like looking at pop singles. I’d much rather be involved in something artistic, in making a documentary of what a camera sees rather than making a story about whatever---combining visuals and sound to create an environment for the watcher.  All of this very much in the air at the moment. It’s all gossip, depending on what type of filming or video system is going to come out.

If you can get your hands on a video studio that will convert your tape into film, you’ve got a lot more technical control with what you can do with the visuals. I’m well ahead on sound, I’m quite confident I can do a good soundtrack to any movie, and I’m quite confident I can do a good movie, but I’m not quite sure what direction I want it to be yet. 

Simon: Ringo’s doing this documentary of a rock ‘n’ roll star…(Note: I believe this movie to be “That’ll Be The Day” released in 1973 which also  features Keith Moon).

Alvin: I wouldn’t want to get involved in anything like that. I mean it could be good actually. Anything can be good, but more likely than not it will be more like light entertainment than an artistic masterpiece. Ideally a film I make will be more like an album, being kind of what happens with the camera with the sound at the time of making it, and whether it’s good or bad will depend on whether the heads behind the film are together. To a point, you have to pick something good to say in a film, the way that you have to pick something good to say in a song. It’s the way that you do it that makes it artistic or a rip-off, isn’t it? 

Simon: Would you like to direct a film yourself?

Alvin: I’d like to be involved in it, but I’d like practical experience, meet somebody whose done some work on films. Obviously, it’d help me a lot. I think I’d have a few original ideas to contribute. 

 

Simon: To get into another completely different kettle of fish, as they say. What do you feel about Decca’s release of Alvin Lee & Company. I know we mentioned it earlier, but we didn’t completely go into it. Could you tell me about the material on that particular album?

Alvin: It’s left over from albums. It’s left over from “Stonehenge”. “B” sides of singles which were put out and were nothing to do with us anyway. When you do an album, the record company will take a single off. It’s part of their bread and butter.  You can’t tell them they can’t. It’s like saying you can’t have any money. “Well”, you say “if you release a single it’s the record company promotion for the album, and not a single. We don’t do “Top Of The Pops” and we don’t do any television . We won’t do any promotion on it---so please yourself.” So they release them for promotion of the album, and this album is the “B” sides.

One’s a very early single we did at the same time we recorded the first album. It’s not too bad: there’s some nice jammers and things on it. At the time we turned it down for release, so obviously we wouldn’t have chosen it now. Everybody’s interested to see what kind of material we decided not to put on our albums, so it’s probably a good album for them to buy, but apart from that, they didn’t consult us on what they call the packaging of it. They did say they were going to use a photograph of me and call it “Alvin Lee and Co.” If they had I would have said no. What in fact I said was “If they’re going to release an album of rubbish and left over tracks, why don’t we look around ourselves and get some good stuff put on? But they didn’t want to have anything to do with that.

 

Simon: Would you object to Decca releasing “The Best Of…”? 

Alvin: You can’t object. We have a recording contract which everybody has to sign---they own the songs. We can’t re-record any songs which we recorded with Decca. They’ve got thirty-five original songs, some of which we play completely differently now because of those deals, that we signed when we were a bit green. We don’t even own the rights to play the stuff, which is sad. But it’s irrelevant really, because we’re more concerned in doing new stuff. I don’t mind albums being released, as long as people know they’re leftovers. If they did do a “Best Of” it could be good and it could be bad. There’s nothing we could do about it. The thing is, we could do a better one, but they won’t communicate with us about it.

 

Simon: How long have you been together as a band, and how long in the present form?

Alvin: About four and a half years. There’s no reason for the band not to continue in its form for a long, long time. A band as old as we are has a problem in keeping ourselves in tune with the music we play. The more we play, the more rehearsals we do, because the more used we get to hearing what we do.

When you’re doing an extensive tour---playing every night---what you’re doing is performing your music to the audience every night. After awhile, although there are subtle differences which a musician could get into, it does tend to sound much of a muchness. You tend to fall into what you did last night because “that sounded good enough”. That’s the kind of attitude that comes in. It’s really hard playing every night and travelling on a plane. You don’t have much time to rehearse or think of new ideas. This is why we work in tours rather than just play. We do a tour for a month, play every night, then throw new ideas around. If we can come out with three new numbers for the next tour, well that’s enough to get into. We recorded every night ourselves. We always record ourselves live, and we listen back to the new numbers, make changes to them, and they just progress.

Perhaps the way to stay interested in your own music is to keep it progressing, keep it moving. There’s no limitation in my mind as to what four musicians can do, as long as they want to keep progressing. As long as all the members of Ten Years After want to play, and want to play better, and want to play the music to people, then there’s no limitations. The only limitations are in your own head, as soon as you start saying you’re fed up and you don’t want to do this or that---you’re on the downward slope.

It does happen, we do get fed up, instead of breaking up we rehearse, which is the right way of doing things, and although we probably won’t be playing the same numbers in five years time, I don’t see any reason why we shouldn’t be still making music in five years time.

I don’t see why there shouldn’t be people that want to hear Ten Years After in five years time.

There might not be as many people as now---we might phase out of popularity, but we don’t stop playing just because fifty thousand don’t want to hear us. We used to play to a hundred people, and I’d imagine we still would, if it got around to that again.

We’re all opportunists---that’s about the nearest to being a business musician---but we’re still not out-and-out entertainers. We don’t put on a show---tell jokes and things like that, a lot of the business is getting into that now. You can go and see Jethro Tull and you get an actual theatrical presentation, which is OK….but I find it rather limiting to the band, because once you’ve got your presentation set---once you’ve done it five times---it all starts seeming like a cliché to me. If we ever do a tour with a bad band, and they use the same jokes every night, it all seems a bit un-artistic to me.

 

Simon: Last year, it might have been two years ago now, you nearly went to Russia, but you didn’t go there---are you in the future planning to do Iron Curtain countries? 

Alvin: Well no, That’s one thing that “Woodstock” stopped actually, because we were going to play the Iron Curtain countries on a basis of a cultural exchange. “Woodstock” led them to believe it would be more a rock ‘n’ roll concert than a cultural exchange----which in all fairness, it probably would. So I don’t think there’s much possibility of that happening now.

We get loads of letters now from Iron Curtain countries, saying they can’t buy our albums there. They’re so suppressed, silly things like they can’t buy a Ten Years After album or anything. It really affects these people and they write and say they’ll exchange their Czechoslovakian folk records for anything we can let them have. It’s sad, sad.

Something like music, man you should be able to go and listen to, whatever you want. Ideally you should be able to go wherever you want and say what ever you want, but it does seem difficult in this over populated world. 

 

Special Thanks to Simon's wife Judith for allowing us to use her personal copy of this third article, written by Simon Stable.

 

 


3.

Melody Maker  9/16/72  

Alvin Lee Talks About: 

The New Ten Years After Album "Rock and Roll Music to the World "

   

Alvin Lee accepts abuse with equanimity, or so it appears. He has received slightly more than his fair share over the years. And while he tends to smile philosophically after being berated, those close to him reveal that the barbs of critics hurt him just as much as the next rock n’ roll super star. The barbs have been shot at a man whose band has been a shade too popular to be good for him, and whose guitar technique is a mite too nifty to be healthy. The blast has come because Ten Years After are not the world’s GREATEST little rock and roll band, even though they were one of the stars of Woodstock, the movie and the festival.  

They have their faults, but if they have been guilty of selling their image too hard, then it becomes a minor offence when one compares them to some of the current visions emerging on the platforms of rock. Where one can fault Ten Years After is not on grounds of exaggerated self-importance . No one who knows Alvin Lee, Chick Churchill, Ric Lee or Leo Lyons, would accuse them of being egotists. Their problem has been to establish a stronger musical identity for the band, other than as a showcase for fast Moving guitar work. Their albums from “Sssh” onwards have tried to break out and develop, but they have rarely produced exceptional original material.  

As sidemen Chick on organ, Ric on drums and Leo on bass have not shone as brightly as Alvin. But Ten Years After have stuck together. And that is because they enjoy being together and in consequence have become one of the longest surviving British bands. Alvin’s personal problem has been a shyness an inability to mix with fellow musicians and the music scene. While other guitarist and singers gaily leap from group to group guest on albums, jam in clubs and rave at the discos, Alvin fronts his group, then returns to a country retreat. But now he is within an ace of solving one problem and he is working on the other. For Ten Years After have recorded an album that ignores the passions of fashion , and simply represents what they do best---a little rock, a modicum of roll, and the blues.  

The new Ten Years After album is called “Rock And Roll Music To The World,” as is certainly their best since “Undead.” Although not a “live” album it was cut on the Stones’ mobile unit in France and gives TYA a spontaneity and brilliance that has been lacking on previous albums.   

More surprising has been Alvin’s determination to get out and blow in different environments. He has been recording at a friend’s home studio with American gospel singer Mylon LeFevre , and guitarist Steve Sanders, both from Georgia. Mylon and Steve have been staying at Alvin’s home, a Tudor house, set in spacious grounds, once isolated from the world, but suddenly threatened by massive motor way works which tear through the soil a few hundred yards away. Alvin is so keen to jam that he even purchased a minibus in which he can drive his musicians around if  they are stuck for transport. “I used to drive Ten Years After around when we first started,” he revealed sitting in the low-beamed lounge surrounded by toys, gadgets and guitars. “I used to drive to London before they built the M1. Because I did the  driving, the others had to unload, although Leo used to pretend he was the manager. “He’d ring up after a gig and ask how we had gone down. “Mr Lyons the manager here. Were the group to your satisfaction’?” Alvin laughed at the memories stirred by the sight of the white Commer parked on the gravel drive. Once they were the chief group transporters, before the mighty Transit took the road.  “I only bought it yesterday. You know, it’s almost therapeutic when a group travels together in a van. It’s like being married. You get downs and ups, but if you don’t travel together you don’t know each other or play together.  

On our last European tour we shared a bus with Patto and they are an incredible band and incredible People. We all had a great time on that tour.” But how will Alvin use his new van? “Oh, if I’m going to a session in London, or if I have to pick up a drummer for  a rehearsal. They always have transport problems. It will also help me to keep my driving down to a reasonable speed, as I’ve got two endorsements driving my Jaguar. I’ve got a Triumph TR3 as well, and I wouldn’t part with it, but it’s a real bone shaker.”  

Who has Alvin been jamming with? “This guy called Mylon from Georgia. He’s asleep upstairs at the moment. He’s a gospel singer from Macon. He used to have his own big band, a 13 piece. We did some gigs with him in the States , and his band was incredible, although it never took off.  His music has got that laid back beat and it’s much less frantic than what I have been playing. I’ve been really enjoying playing. That style, and I’ve become a lot more relaxed. “We’ve been recording with Ian Wallace on drums from King Crimson. He’s incredible And we had B.J. Wilson on drums from Procol  for a couple of tracks. Leo played bass and although nobody has heard of any of the numbers, it really slotted together well.”  

Alvin thought it was time to wake up Mylon, as it was around 4 pm and he removed a hunting horn from the fireplace. He gave a deafening blast and the distinctive moan of a gospel singer from Georgia filtered  from the minstrel gallery overhead. Alvin acknowledged the moan with a cry of “Noy!”  “That’s the Patto group call. You’ll hear that a lot if Patto are around.” It seemed a fair warning.  

Mylon lurched downstairs, a young American with quite a bit of hair around his face, blessed with a beautiful drawl that made Bonnie Bramlett sound like John Cleese. “This is Mylon,” said Alvin with some pride. “We really got off on his music in the States. When he sings about the south bound train for Tallahassee it’s all real. When I sing, it’s only how I IMAGINE it all. It’s probably only psychological, but it gives you the feeling it’s all right to sing the blues when Mylon is around.” But how did Alvin relate Ten Years After to his new friends. Presumably the band would continue? “Sure---right. Ten Years After has become itself. The music is an amalgamation of all four of us. On the next LP we strived to make it natural music from the band with nothing different, just for the sake of it. It’s more of a rock album. The music of Ten Years After is pretty hard rock, but my listening tastes have mellowed. I like Stephen Stills and Poco  and I figured it would be nice to play that way as well. And I’m particularly interested in meeting other musicians and jamming, although I’d never felt like it before.”  

“You see, I had a socialising problem. The music business should be like a big club. On the surface  it is but relationships don’t go deeper unless you work at it. And that’s what I’m doing, and it’s widening my horizons a lot.  I take other people’s music a lot more seriously. I’d be into any music outside of what we were doing if it was ”heavy” and progressive on the albums. We always like to end our sets with some rock but we wanted to try and do something else as well, so that people could hear a bit of everything. “We recorded the new album in a chateau in France. We did five days rehearsal then spent five days with the Stones’ mobile. At the time we thought the results hadn’t been that good, and the experiment hadn’t worked. But when we got the tapes together, it sounded really good. It’s captured an atmosphere on record that we have never got before. Like, the drums were just set up in a room lined with marble, and the drums got a bright sound you couldn’t repeat in studio conditions.”  

While Alvin is pleased with the new TYA album he admitted he had been itching to try something new. “Everybody enjoys playing with different musicians from time to time and after awhile a regular group does become like work, when you earn your living from it. And then it becomes harder to find really new things.” By now Mylon was beginning to open his eyes to the fading afternoon light. How did he meet up with Alvin? “We met about two and half years ago in New York. I had a band called Holy Smoke and we jammed together. Alvin told me to call up anytime I came over to England and me and Steve came over about six weeks ago. I quite the road last December. We only had 91 days off in two and half years, and it was getting hard. We were a 13-piece band, and we worked all over the States.” Mylon has a couple of fine albums to his credit, including one on the Cotillion label, produced by his friend Allen Toussaint, famed for his association with Lee Dorsey. Mylon has been managed by Felix Pappallardi, and has also recorded with Little Richard. He has an open soulful vocal style. The recordings that Alvin and Mylon have made together are a revelation.  

Although only rough mixes from a home studio, the tracks they played sounded like a gold album, with Alvin emerging in a startling new light. The two seem to have a good effect on each other. Said Mylon: “We’ve done about five or six songs together. I was up at 5 am writing. In fact yesterday was one of the best days in my life.” He grinned  with pleasure at Alvin as the tapes began to roll, while Steve shook his head, uttering a soft “wow” as Alvin’s guitar pushed along the vocals. The first number “It Ain’t Easy,” showed Alvin in a completely different light, far away from his usual jet propelled style. Rich, mellow chords and an easy country feel prevailed, but even so, his remarkable technique marked him as a guitarist of distinction.  

“This is all original music,”  said Steve. “I just play  rhythm guitar and sing the back up vocals, but we all believe in it. Alvin plays some guitar on this that kills me.” There was some more fine playing on “Starry Eyed Child” and “One More Chance,” all with a relaxed down home beat, that recalled the Band or the Byrds. Did Alvin sing on any of the tracks? “No, faced with that Georgia accent, I don’t make it. Mylon wants to take this eight track recording back to Georgia and get it transferred to a 16 track. Then I’ll go over there with Leo and finish it off.” 

Next Alvin played the new Ten Years After album “Rock And Roll Music To The World,” which is due out tomorrow (Friday). And the band sounded much better for their fresh, frank approach. The tunes concentrate on a solid rock beat, mixed with some rave-ups like “Choo Choo Mama.” “We kept it all very basic,” said Alvin, “but there are some really good solos from Chick. Listen to this one on ‘Standing At The Station.’ It took nearly six hours to mix the Moog synthesiser and organ tracks together. As Alvin blew some tremendously exciting guitar solos, particularly on “Station,” which climaxes with an express train thundering across the speakers, it seemed this will prove the best album TYA have produced. “The first two albums we did were representative of how we played at the time. ‘Stonehenge,’ the third one was influenced by flower power, and the others were aimed to be progressive. This is just how we are now.”    

By Chris Welch

 

 

 

4.

From Disc Magazine 11/25/72

Alvin Lee …Wanted To Stay Together

Alvin Lee is rather like a man amongst boys. Rock, with its temporary nature, is constantly coming up with  fresh faces to titillate the fickle public, but Alvin Lee has survived it all with the help of Leo Lyons, Chick Churchill and Ric Lee, four people dedicated to the furtherance of the music of Ten Years After. We were backstage at Bristol’s Colston Hall after the final gig of TYA’s recent British tour. It was a marvellous gig with “Spoonful” and “Crossroads” brought back into the set after a long absence.  We headed back towards London, veered off at the Reading by-pass and manoeuvred our way through  narrow lanes which ultimately brought us to our destination—a rambling old home, kept in immaculate  repair, set in fifty acres of land.

After listening to some tapes put down in the States, we had an hilarious supper, a bottle of champagne to celebrate Lorraine’s birthday, a couple of tunes played by Alvin on the piano and a lot of fun watching the men play billiards.  TYA have become something of a rock institution. Is there any one thing  that has kept you together? Alvin says: “There are a few things, but the main thing is that we wanted to stay together. It isn’t always easy, but if you look for a way to work problems out rather than split up, it’s much better. All bands have arguments, but we look for a way to work it out.   “Each one of us is free to do what we want, to a degree, and it’s our own music. A lot of people say they are still playing the same way, but that is the style of the band. Breaking up seemed entirely negative to us.”   Yours has been a natural progression as opposed to one that followed the trends. Was that purposeful?   “It has always been part of our policy not to force any progression. In the old days, as it were, all the bands I knew had to play popular numbers, figuring that you would get more work like that, but that was a matter of  doing gigs at the weekend to get some money rather than having any long-term thoughts about playing your own music.  

After a few years, we got to thinking about it and we decided we would best be known for playing the kind of music we liked. “Having been involved with a bit of the Tin Pan Alley side, I really didn’t like it. I used to do guitar sessions and they would tell you what style to play—that you were playing too much—  and it was awful. We decided we were going to be free and play our own music which we did for about a year and a half with no success at all (much laughter), but we still kept at it.” Ten Years After were and still are the most blues-orientated band to find mass acceptance. Why do you think you succeeded where others failed? Alvin replies: “In all fairness, John Mayall was a large inspiration, due to the fact that he was earning a living playing his own kind of music. This gave us a great deal of encouragement to try to do a similar thing on our own level. Mayall’s group was a purist blues band, where as we interpreted the blues in a way which offended the purist. “I think there is a lot of luck involved because  I know a lot of good musicians who are now doing nothing, just because they didn’t have the   perseverance. “You see, the one thing our band had in common when it was rough was that we didn’t have anything else we could do. We didn’t have a trade. The only way I could earn a living was to do a gig in a pub which was all experience anyway.”  

  Do you think Charisma plays an important part?  

“That of course, is in the eye of the beholder. I’ve always liked to believe there wasn’t such a thing but, of course, there is. Take ‘Woodstock’ as an example. After we had been at Woodstock the attitude towards us was entirely different. We seem to have acquired some kind of prestige from being on celluloid. “Some people are totally affected by it and others not at all, and they are the kind of people I can get along with. I can’t get along with people who sit overawed just because you were in a ‘Woodstock’ film.”  

  However, even though you have tried to take the emphasis off yourself by having the rest of the band do solos,  most of the attention is still focused on yourself. Would you agree that some people have more of an aura than others? “Sure. You get a much more positive reaction if you have something that people can either relate to or recognise. For instance, there’s Elvis Presley whom I, as a 13- year old, hero-worshipped. I was totally in an aura which I had made up in my own mind about him, and everything he did was fantastic and there was no knocking it— until I eventually went off him and, in fact hated him. You see, no rationalisation at all. “It could have been because he changed, because I still think his early recordings were incredible. They have so much earthiness—so much country funk, but he then went into that plastic Hollywood pop star game and his music became stereotyped. “ I went to see him in Las Vegas and he was like an Elvis Presley impersonator. He really overdid himself.

  “I think if he had just played his own music instead of relating to all those other images, he would have been better off —commercially as well. To get any lasting pleasure, you have to believe in what you do. You should take it seriously. “With Ten Years After, the thing is I don’t lead it. I may stand at the front and write the songs, but I don’t tell anyone what to play. It’s the music of four people and it grows itself and finds its own level.”  

  Your guitar style has become very distinctive. Did this happen gradually?  

“It was very gradual. Originally, all my phrases were either made up or copied off records—most of them I adapted from other things. Very few of them were original. But the more I played them the more I twisted  them around and other people brought my attention to it. “I would say ‘I played this solo just like it was on the record’ and they’d say ‘it’s nothing like it’ and play the record. It would have changed without my  noticing it.

  “However, I did become aware that my own style was developing—in fact, I got really paranoid as to what  I should do if I didn’t because I didn’t really know what I was doing. I figured it was a matter of listening to good records, picking things up, adding to them and interpreting them my own way.”  This follow-through attitude you have towards your music also seems to apply to your interest in  electronic music and photography. Is it true of you generally?  Alvin says: “It’s nice to think you think that, but the only thing I believe is that if you want to do something or be involved in it, then you have to learn all the angles about it. “Even if you want to run a sweet shop, there’s a right way to do it. It’s a help just talking to people who know something about it, but best of all  is actually doing it. “It’s one thing to think something out perfectly, but doing it is something else. “I’ve always basically  been a thinker and I’ve had to adapt to doing. What I do have is the ability to be involved one hundred percent.” We haven’t had a “live” album from TYA since “Undead.” Can we expect another one? “That’s on. We’ve avoided another ‘live’ album for the same reason we’ve avoided putting slow blues’ numbers on recent albums—because it seemed too easy. It just didn’t seem right to put down an album in one evening instead of working for three months in a studio. “However, I’m convinced that it would be a good time to do one now and we’re going to record with the Stones’ mobile studio which we tested out on ‘Rock and Roll Music to the World’.

  “We’re going to record four dates on the Continent in January and mix the tapes in Los Angeles where  there are good studios for mixing. “If it turns out all right, then we’ll definitely release it. That’s our next plan.”  

  What about the U.S. hysteria that followed “Woodstock.” Has it eased up? 

  “That kind of flashed up and flashed off really. It was a bit of mass media exposure  and it went the way I always figured it would—just a flash in the pan.”    

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